tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2911068236939343613.post3339028028793746468..comments2023-08-24T16:41:19.306+01:00Comments on Let nothing you dismay: The infinite possibilities of self-delusionMichael Gollop http://www.blogger.com/profile/00076220518083389674noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2911068236939343613.post-44268529469860260312010-09-16T01:59:18.809+01:002010-09-16T01:59:18.809+01:00Father Michael, you wrote:
"Yet we know in ou...Father Michael, you wrote:<br />"Yet we know in our hearts that Christ is the bringer of joy and hope; that our God who, just as he transforms the bread and wine offered on the altar to become Christ’s Body and Blood, is capable of transforming us so that we share in his very nature - so that we have union with him."<br /><br />This sounds to me exactly like Orthodox teaching, rather than Catholic. Have you looked at all into that possibility? I know that one Anglican Welsh Vicar is doing so: see http://orthodoxpathway.blogspot.com/ <br /><br />As the reverence and devotion in worship that I had known in the Anglican church increasingly fell away, Orthodoxy is where I have found a home.CGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042550309690689027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2911068236939343613.post-27366691921043904092010-09-11T08:51:36.327+01:002010-09-11T08:51:36.327+01:00I lived briefly in the Veneto and what I remember ...I lived briefly in the Veneto and what I remember most vividly alongside the modern orchards and olive groves are the roadside shrines - mostly to Our Lady but sometimes other saints, sometimes the Sacred Heart. I love them. I am glad to hear they survive in France too.margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07727534908302610374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2911068236939343613.post-15369585705227258202010-09-09T12:07:37.171+01:002010-09-09T12:07:37.171+01:00Thank you, Paul; that's fair comment. I spoke ...Thank you, Paul; that's fair comment. I spoke and wrote in an overly emotional way. I think, though, what I was driving at is that we have perhaps all been the willing victims (is victim too strong - perhaps what I really mean is that we were all too willing to collude?) of a corporate, ecclesial sense of identity which had less and less of a hold on reality, if indeed it ever had one. From a "catholic" point of view that didn't really matter that much when the theological trajectories of Anglicanism and the Catholic Church herself appeared to be converging - as seemed to be the case, for example, in the mid 1980s when I was ordained priest. Now, of course, that historically and theologically dubious sense of self-identity has been exposed in all its weakness and, yes, untruth.<br />If I am still willing to use the word "lie," it doesn't refer to those devout clergy and laity who genuinely believed we were a true branch of the Catholic Church, but to the nature of the English Reformation settlement itself, the fruits of which we are still reaping, and the conclusion of which is now playing itself out some nearly 500 years later.Michael Gollop https://www.blogger.com/profile/00076220518083389674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2911068236939343613.post-72704747824935411722010-09-08T21:33:07.909+01:002010-09-08T21:33:07.909+01:00Not lied to, I think, Michael, because that sugges...Not lied to, I think, Michael, because that suggests being told untruths by those who knew they were untruths. The tragedy of Anglicanism is that those who told us untruths believed that they were telling us the truth. Disillusionment is no bad thing- it means being rid of one's illusions, and seeing things clearly at last.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com