Thursday, 22 May 2014

We wouldn't disagree with the analysis ... "the Fallacy of Wannabe Anglicanism."

The following is from an article written for the Denver Catholic Register by the American commentator George Weigel. He is responding to reported comments from (former Sr) Lavinia Byrne to the effect that the (Roman) Catholic Church should have embraced recent Anglican innovations ..... 
"...Dr. Lavinia Byrne (for those unfamiliar with the higher echelons of the British Catholic commentariat) is a former nun whose refusal to concede that the question of ordaining women to the ministerial priesthood was definitively settled by John Paul II in 1994 led to difficulties with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and her eventual departure from religious life. Dr. Byrne was one of those interviewed for the ABC program on John Paul II, and while her animus toward the Polish pope was entirely predictable, what struck me was the following statement, which she made toward the end of the program:
“If in the 1990s, the [Catholic] Church had followed the example of the Anglican communion and had accepted the ordination of women, it would look very different nowadays….Had there been ordination of women we would not have had parishes that are starved of the sacraments because there simply aren’t enough young men coming forward who are prepared to be celibate and prepared to labor on their own.”
There, in brief, is the Fallacy of Wannabe Anglicanism.
If the experience of Anglicanism in Great Britain is the measure Dr. Byrne proposes, then it is certainly true that “the Catholic Church…would look very different nowadays” if “in the 1990s [it] had followed the example of the Anglican communion and had accepted the ordination of women”—it would look empty. For that is how most Anglican churches in Britain today look on Sunday: empty. There are, of course, many reasons for the collapse of Anglican faith and practice in the U.K.; but there isn’t the slightest shred of evidence that that collapse has been slowed, much less reversed, by the Church of England’s decision to admit women to its ordained ministry....
.... The Church of England went ahead with the “radical innovation;” the quest for full communion between Canterbury and Rome suffered a grave blow; North Atlantic Anglicanism continued to hemorrhage active congregants.
Hard experience should have taught us by now that there is an iron law built into the relationship between Christianity and modernity. Christian communities that know and defend their doctrinal and moral boundaries (while extending the compassion of Christ when we fail to live within those boundaries, as we all do) survive in modernity; some actually flourish and become robustly evangelical. Conversely, Christian communities whose doctrinal and moral boundaries are eroded by the new orthodoxy of political correctness, and become so porous that it becomes impossible to know if one is “in” or “out,” wither and die.
That is the sad state of Anglicanism in the North Atlantic world today: even splendid liturgical smells-and-bells can’t save an Anglicanism hollowed out by the shibboleths of secular modernity. Why British Catholics like Lavinia Byrne can’t see this is one of the mysteries of the 21st-century Church."
Yes, there are, indeed, many complex reasons for the collapse of Anglican faith and practice in modern Britain, some of which are traceable back for over a century. Yet the statistics are indisputable: contrary to the glib predictions of its proponents, the ordination of women has done nothing to arrest that decline. 

There will be no further posts here for the next week - normal service resumes in June .... 


  1. How right you are!
    These empty arguments were put forward in the CofE, they have led to empty Churches, empty theology, and empty faith.
    Now, in the CofE, you can believe whatever you like, as long as it is not something!
    Especially forbidden is the "Orthodox" Christian Faith.

  2. Joseph Golightly22 May 2014 at 18:09

    I was at a conference where this woman said that if you didn't have internet access you were a nobody. Not a very nice person

  3. right on, per usual, Weigel, and it amazes me that they still keep banging the same drum. But they do. Of course they're not really concerned with Christians filling the pews, they want that to die.

    Wish fulfilled, TEC & CofE.

    Lavinia Byrne. What a nightmare.

  4. à propos of nothing in particular except currently fashionable relationship issues, I gather a certain now 'clerical' lady was once told at a drinks reception by a notable and respected theologian and wit,"Better to marry than to Byrne...." Or so rumour has it .....


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